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<font color="white" size=".72c">you're watching the context it's time</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">for our new weekly segment AI</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">decoded welcome to AI decoded that time</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">of the week when we look in depth at</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">some of the most eye-catching stories in</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">the world of artificial intelligence and</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">we begin New York Times who report</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">Google has been fined $271 Million by</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">France's competition Watchdog for</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">failing to broker agreements with media</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">outlets for using their content to train</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">its AI Tech which leads us to a possible</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">solution after leading AI developer open</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">AI told the UK Parliament it's</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">impossible to train leading AI models</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">without using uh copyrighted materials a</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">group of researchers says there is an</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">alternative after releasing what's</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">thought to be the largest AI training</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">data set composed entirely of text</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">that's in the public domain not under</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">copyright AP News looks at the UN</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">general assembly vote on what would be</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">the first United Nations resolution on</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">artificial</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">intelligence and The Verge Tech website</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">has a video of one of their journalists</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">having a real-time conversation with an</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">currently it's an experimental program</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">developed by video game developer</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">Ubisoft and we'll show you a clip of</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">that a little later actually in the Ft</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">an Uber Eats delivery worker who after</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">becoming fed up with the company's app</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">consistently made making errors decided</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">to rewrite the code to fix the issues we</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">have the author of that article with us</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">and she'll tell us a bit more and AFP</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">news features novelist salmon rushy who</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">says artificial intelligence tools may</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">and science fiction but they lack the</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">originality and humor to challenge</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">serious novelists and another artist</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">musician James Blunt says he felt</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">humiliated at how bad the results were</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">when he experimented with AI to see if</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">it could create lyrics accurately in his</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">style well with me here is mad murgia</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">the financial times's artificial</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">intelligence editor thanks very much for</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">coming on the program thanks for having</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">me right lots to get through quite a</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">busy week I think we can probably almost</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">say that every week now let's uh let's</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">start with the New York Times France</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">finds Google amid AI dispute with news</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">media so this is a kind of broad issue</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">that we're going to come up against</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">quite a lot and already have but a</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">seemingly significant moment what's</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">happened here yeah so this is you know</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">there's been as you say a long running</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">organizations about how Google has been</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">using links uh news media newspaper</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">articles and so on this particular fine</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">um they've said that they've failed to</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">negotiate Fair deals um and have used</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">large language models the chat Bots that</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">many of us have been using so this is</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">part of a wider ruling that they've made</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">and said Google hasn't negotiated in</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">good faith and and saying it's failing</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">to inform Publishers of the use of their</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">software isn't that something that we're</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">kind of all the big AI kind of companies</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">all in the same boat here is everything</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">kind of trained the same way absolutely</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">it's not just Google open AI too um you</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">know they are uh funded by Microsoft</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">primarily they also that they have one</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">of the most powerful models which um</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">Powers chat GPT which people might have</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">played around with that too is a large</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">language model trained on a huge Corpus</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">of data found online New York Times</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">itself actually has sued open AI um and</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">is currently in in this court case with</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">them saying that they've illegally used</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">that's kind of another ongoing battle on</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">another front interesting and so we're</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">going to stick with exactly this theme</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">because they are now clay this is uh</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">wired here's proof you can train an AI</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">model without slurping copyrighted</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">content um not often you get slurping in</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">a headline but I like it uh so what's</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">this story about so this is kind of look</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">this is the other side of the coin right</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">because the leaders of these companies</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">you know open AI in particular has said</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">there's no other way to build these</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">language models if we want chatbots we</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">need to use the the words on the</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">internet we need this data um but the</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">the research that's come out of here um</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">it's a group of researchers backed by</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">the French government they've shown that</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">actually there are other ways there are</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">alternatives um you can make data sets</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">that power maybe smaller models but for</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">specific use cases um an example they</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">example so if you're trying to build a</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">lawyers and the work that they do and</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">this could be true in scientific</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">research or any sort of vertical that</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">that want to apply it to you can you can</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">use you know less data and it can be</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">paid for interesting so that's one</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">potential solution but again on those</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">narrow use cases or narrower use cases</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">because it says in here that yeah the</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">data set is Tiny compared to what lots</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">of the other language models were kind</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">of based on so surely there must be some</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">kind of difference in quality of outcome</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">or may Maybe not maybe you don't you</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">don't need that you know obviously the</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">internet the entire swell of information</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">that we all put out there from Reddit</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">reviews um but there's also a lot of</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">noise in that data right there's there's</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">a lot of rubbish on the internet as as</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">everyone can attest to so it's not</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">necessarily clean good quality data so</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">there is there is still a it's an open</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">question of whether it's quantity or</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">quality um and I think that there is an</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">argument to be made for good quality</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">data interesting right let's move on to</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">a bit of high level regulation now</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">because it's hugely important there are</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">as we've been witnessing over the last</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">attempts uh at regulation the United</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">what's going on there so today the</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">general assembly is set to vote um on</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">what's going to be the first United</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">Nations resolution on artificial</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">intelligence um the goal they're hoping</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">that it will be unanimous and the the</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">goal really is to bridge inequities</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">between um you know the developed</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">Western World and uh countries in the in</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">the global South developing world and</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">make sure that those countries have a</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">developing the Technologies and it isn't</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">these companies are based that you know</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">see all the upside of the technology</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">interesting yeah because we're picking</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">up these these quotes from AP here and</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">they're saying they want to make it safe</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">secure trustworthy of those broad</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">principles that I think most people</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">interesting picking up on exactly what</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">you were talking about there it's it's</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">Distributing the potential benefits not</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">just having a few companies in a few</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">countries and therefore the populations</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">benefiting but making sure it's across</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">the world uh that's a laudable aim I'm</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">so that they can help AI kind of achieve</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">inequities in health care education and</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">of it but it's a step it's a step uh</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">yeah some of the examples detecting</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">it we're going to actually see it</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">because we're going to take uh a moment</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">conversation with an AI Avatar this is</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">look tell me one word why I should</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">passion you can feel it can't you all</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">right that burning desire to make a</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">right that's what drives us and that's</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">me there will be tough</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">times but together we can overcome them</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">I have too much to lose I have a family</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">this family is everything</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">Nelson and that's why we're fighting to</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">we can't continue living in fear and</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">oppression it's a risk but it's a risk</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">backs have you lost anybody close to</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">many my son my friends my</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">home but every loss only fuels my</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">going and through the resistance I found</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">family together we can make a difference</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">and prevent others from experiencing ing</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">the same pain right slightly strange to</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">watch that what was going on so that is</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">an avatar powered by Ai and what's</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">unique about it is it's not scripted so</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">it's just responding to you in real time</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">conversation that's what's kind of new</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">about this and a bit stunted but you can</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">the next generation of games it's quite</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">haunting wasn't it watching it which I</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">but if that is basically still in the</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">kind of concept phase that seems I don't</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">know pretty impressive to me even if it</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">is just a kind of fancy chat bot at the</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">moment it's still deeply impressive</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">right let's move on to your story ft the</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">delivery Rider who took on his faceless</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">boss is the headline what's this so This</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">is actually from my book which is which</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">came out today which is exciting but</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">this is about um it's called code</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">dependent and it's about human beings</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">unexpectedly and Armin Sami who's the</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">Uber Eats driver in this story found</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">that he was being underpaid consistently</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">or in one case and he wanted to figure</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">out was this a problem that occurred</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">again and again and because the</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">algorithms that kind of govern work on</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">gig apps are so opaque you know people</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">the people who work for these apps have</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">no idea why they're being paid what</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">they're being paid he had to hack it he</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">essentially built a tool that could</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">figure out how far he was traveling and</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">therefore how much he should have been</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">paid he then made this free for other</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">rubber drivers to use and they've all</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">been using it around the world to figure</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">out you know whether they've been</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">underpaid which had that is an</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">absolutely incredible story I wish we</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">had more time for it unfortunately we</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">don't last issue we've got to move on</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">because we are unfortunately nearly out</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">of time Salon rushy AI only poses a</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">threat to unoriginal writers and also we</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">can look at at the same time James Blunt</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">humiliated by generic AI versions of his</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">Lyrics these are artists what's going on</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">here so this is really about creativity</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">ever be creative right whether that's</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">artists you know voice over actors uh</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">writers journalists like ask you know</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">can we be replaced by Ai and so far the</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">answer seems to be no it's it's pretty</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">generic James Blunt actually finds it</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">you know humiliating as he says nothing</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">like his real lyrics um so I don't think</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">it's there yet um if to rep coming to</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">replace us well so yeah you didn't have</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">to bring journalists into it at the end</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">no one was talking about them until you</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">brought it in right alter time thank you</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">so much for coming in and talking us</font>

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<font color="white" size=".72c">through the brilliant stuff that's it</font>

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