text: Wayne - i'm sure that's all well and good (not that we can tell, since you haven't provided a source...), but it doesn't change the fact that some fundamentalist Muslims entirely DO believe in all those things you listed. Now whether or not you categorise them as outside Islam is irrelevant, since I'm fairly convinced they would have the opposite view. (A bit like Christians will argue til the end of time over which denomination is right, not matter how extreme their views).